Lagering/Conditioning

Lagering/Conditioning

Postby Soniat » Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:32 am

I am making a wheat/rye ale and a pale ale both are 5 gal batches and both stayed In the primary for 21 days. I transferred both into kegs to cold condition, they are in a ref at about 34 deg. I did not carbonate them in the kegs because I want to bottle them. My questions are.
1) Is there any advantage to this type of conditioning?
2) If so, how long do I leave them?
3) After conditioning will the yeast still be alive to carbonate with priming sugar, or do I need to pitch more yeast before I bottle?
4) If so, will re-pitching effect the beer taste or clarity?
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Re: Lagering/Conditioning

Postby worty » Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:30 am

Typically this is done with a lager yeast (i.e. what you are doing is called lagering).

With an ale yeast, you may not have any viable yeast left if you chill it that low.

Did your recipe call for this?
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Re: Lagering/Conditioning

Postby GuitarLord5000 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:51 am

Soniat wrote:1) Is there any advantage to this type of conditioning?
I think a lot of beer styles can benefit from a week of lagering. It'll help to precipitate out chill haze and yeast to make your beer clearer and cleaner tasting.

2) If so, how long do I leave them?
A weeks near freezing should be plenty, depending on the yeast. Some yeast strains that are less flocculant might require longer lagering or gelating finings to get clear.

3) After conditioning will the yeast still be alive to carbonate with priming sugar, or do I need to pitch more yeast before I bottle?
Depends on how long you lager, and if you used finings to get the beer clear. For prolonged lagering times, or beer that has been fined with gelatin or isinglass, reyeasting might be required. However, since it seems like you already have the kegs, why not look into counterpressure bottle fillers? You can carbonate your keg, and fill bottles directly from kegs. They can be a bit spendy, but I use the method shown in this video, and it works well and is CHEAP!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwIbFQcHYyo
also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow7rUf0TgPg


4) If so, will re-pitching effect the beer taste or clarity?
To a degree, yes. It probably won't be a night and day difference though.
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Re: Lagering/Conditioning

Postby Soniat » Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:54 am

Thanks for the replies.
How well does the carbonation hold up when you bottle from a keg?
I have put beer in a growler from a keg before and it went flat after about a week.
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Re: Lagering/Conditioning

Postby GuitarLord5000 » Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:32 am

The bottles lose a small bit of carbonation in the bottling process, but will retain that level of carbonation for a long time. Indefinitely? I dunno, I didn't keep any of the beers I bottled this way longer than about a month. They all maintained their carbonation, though. It might be beneficial to carb up your beer a tad more than usual in the keg before you bottle.
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Re: Lagering/Conditioning

Postby Soniat » Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:32 pm

Thanks GL i will take your advise
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